• 00xide@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    This is just acknowledging that the government wouldn’t be corrupt without the billionaires. By the logic of your post, the left is correct and the right is not.

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      8 hours ago

      Yes, the post is meant to be pro-left.

      But your first sentence in your comment is wrong. Classic correlation is not causation. With the addition of “if X is Y because Z, if Z wouldn’t be, then X wouldn’t be Y”.

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    8 hours ago

    We really gotta stop using that girl in memes that make her seem crazy. She was the calmest most reasoned person in that video.

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    Everyone is “I need someone who I can vote for!”

    Why not run yourself? I bet there is a considerable amount of people willing to vote for a random person who has no known connections to oligarchs, pedophiles or billionaires

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      8 hours ago

      Because I don’t want to be a politician.

      There are also too many stupid executives. That doesn’t mean that I want to be an executive. I cannot both be a politician and an executive.

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    When does the right think corrupt government is the problem?

    They’re too busy blaming everything on whatever that corrupt government tells them to.

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        20 hours ago

        Both sides are now 30% of the electorate or less (pick your poll, D&R are very close).

        Independents are now 40% of the voters.

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          Both sides is a pretentious asshole, are you seriously suggesting that 30-40% of all politically active US citizens are pretentious assholes?

          I am an independent and I have zero issues seeing the ruling class and the culture they have created as the problem. Blaming it on the government is short sighted and plays into the wealthy’s hands. That is just stupid in my book.

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    20 hours ago

    This has to be one of the most boomer out-of-touch I’m-a-cool-smart-guy memes I’ve seen on here, and that’s saying something.

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    Fun fact! The picture of the girl in this meme comes from this video, (relevant portion about 3 minutes in) in which she’s by far the calmest and most reasonable person involved. She’s not even angry, she just has kind of an expressive face, and she looks like that for all of exactly one frame

    Some psycho combed through this video frame by frame to find the least flattering picture of her possible. Rightoids need to die out man

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      23 hours ago

      I actually didn’t know this. She really does seem like a sweet and friendly person. It’s a shame she’s being used as a symbol for crazy by the right, when she’s actually the opposite.

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      I was just thinking, “what is that woman’s story?” Glad to hear it isn’t something like she was turned into a meme and whatever little mental health she had shattered, and now she spends all her time shut in her parent’s basement. Thankfully, the real story isn’t as dark as my imagination.

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    Um no, that is not what the “left” thinks.

    There are a lot of radically different “left wing” ideologies. The quote, you claim to be left wing could probably be attributed to social democrats, maybe socialists, although not really. And that quote doesn’t really represent a good summary of what they believe.

    I, for example am pretty far to the left, I am an anarchist. I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing, be it a companie’s CEO or a government and I advocate for flat hierarchies and the organization of society via specialized assemblies. And of course the ownership of workers of the means of production.

    So, I guess I would agree with your quote, as I am against exploitation from the government and from billionaires. I just think, that corruption is the wrong way to look at it. The way, capitalism is going right now is not corruption in the sense that is an “error” in the system. Nor is it the fault of individuals or a group of people. It’s just that capitalism is set up in a way, that it naturally produces and needs these crisees, like faciasm to once again violently reinforce itself and live on. Capitalism will inevitaly lead to concentration of wealth, because of the power imbalance between worker and employer. And this leads to imbalances in power, which you could call corruption.

    So, in summary, your statement could be considered leftist, as that is pretty close to what leftists believe. It’s just that a lot of leftists go a bit further and analyze the issue on a systemic level rather than an individual one.

    Also, the right is not authentically against governmental corruption, look at them cheering on ice raids or the war in Iran. Wanting to spend more money in state violence is the most “pro-government” thing, I could think of.

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      I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing

      What exactly do you think is a just hierarchy? Where is the line?

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        There is none. That’s why I am an anarchist. I guess, I worded that in a bad way.

        Edit: Maybe, the one exception, I can think of is parents and their children, because children are not fully developed and are missing some important abilities to fully participate in society. Still, of course I believe in letting your child participate and encouraging them to exercise and their autonomy, but there are limits.

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    Billionaires aren’t corrupt, they’re ethically bankrupt; they’re the corrupt_ors_.
    Government officials are corrupt because they’ve been corrupted by the billionaire corruptors.

    Getting rid of the billionaires solves both problems at once.

    It’s always funny to me when people say to put the billionaires in charge, it’s always just like

    The farmer is doing a bad job because they just let the fox into the henhouse, so instead we should put the fox in charge of the henhouse. The fox is best suited for the job because they have a lot of experience with hens and they know all the problems with the henhouses.

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        Corrupt billionaires running the government means you think the problem is corrupt billionaires.

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            Where did you get socialism from?

            We’re talking about the meme saying left wingers oppose billionaires.

            Anyway socialism is when production, distribution, and exchange are owned/regulated by the workers/community.

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              I’m so tired of libs on this site dude. Go read Rob Paxton’s The Anatomy of Fascism, it is ahistorical to suggest that the thing you’re calling definitive of “left” (whatever the fuck that means to you people at this point) is enough to determine of someone is “left.”

              Or are you arguing that Elon Musk is correct about National Socialism?