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    It is truly, deeply amazing how bad Microsoft is. Proton on Linux is FASTER than the actual directX it’s emulating is on windows. They got beat at their own instruction layer.

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      And they had Skype, which was practically a genericized trademark for “video call–” until first Apple’s FaceTime and then Zoom utterly took them apart.

      And they had Office, which defined the product category so completely that it’s called “office software–” but then Google Docs took them apart on a molecular level.

      Microsoft is the king of snatching defeat from the clutching jaws of victory.

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        but then Google Docs took them apart

        Tapping the breaks on that one.

        Google Docs is very lightweight, but it’s also very stripped down. Word remains the first choice in word processors for 90% of the market. It (and Excel) are a big reason offices haven’t seriously begun abandoning Microsoft.

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          Not being able to paste a jpg of a screenshot into an Excel sheet embedded in a Word document is a feature.

          I posit that the vast majority of users of Office would be just fine with any of the lightweight web app equivalents.

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            I think we’ll eventually see folks migrate to Jupiter Notebook style data entry and management. But they’re relatively new and not well-integrated into modern workflows.

            For the time being, people are brought into offices and trained on Excel, get comfortable with Excel, and continue to use Excel because that’s how they spend the bulk of their hours. You’ve got networking effect and priors cementing these apps as the go-to for an entire generation.

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              100%

              Excel is the one actual critical application because it deals with data (and formulae), data which is only useful when you maintain its integrity (hopefully you’re not storing dates).

              Word is just a shitty application for text. Needs that can usually be adequately addressed by a plain text file (or plain text email). It thinks it’s a desktop publishing application (goodbye MS Publisher). Any tool that can do rudimentary text processing will suffice for the vast majority of use cases. One might have footnotes and some meta data that might be important, other apps do that well. Even markdown can do that.

              PowerPoint, likewise, is a shitty slide show application. Any equivalent will suffice.

              There’s quite a few other apps, I forget those.

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                Word is just a shitty application for text.

                It’s fine. People love to shit on the app because Microsoft Bad. But it’s living at the rough midpoint of application quality, at least in it’s modern incarnation.

                PowerPoint, likewise, is a shitty slide show application.

                As a slideshow app, it’s another perfectly fine piece of software.

                What’s disgusting about PowerPoint isn’t the app but the LinkedIn psychos who use it

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          I don’t think that’s the case, but I only have anecdotal evidence for that. I haven’t ever worked at a company where Office was the preference, and the last three I’ve worked at didn’t even offer it as a default. And I’m in my forties.

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            I haven’t ever worked at a company where Office was the preference,

            I haven’t worked at an office where it wasn’t. And I’ve done years of consulting at Deloitte, so I’ve seen a few places.

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        They also had Internet Explorer. When it was released it was actually good (compared to the competition). Internet Explorer was dominant, but then it turned into the punching bag of web browser memes.

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          It wasn’t that they destroyed it, it was more that they let it bit rot. Skype was honestly never a great user experience by today’s standards. The audio was bad, the connection was very unstable over mobile networks, and push notifications for calls was hit or miss. Microsoft acquired it, slapped a Microsoft login screen on it and then basically didn’t do anything to improve it. Meanwhile, Google created and killed seventy different video calling apps, which all worked better than Skype, and Apple stuck the landing with FaceTime.

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          They acquired practically everything they have. They haven’t created anything truly new since the mid-90s.

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        Is Google Docs as popular as Microsoft Office?

        I work in finance/insurance and can’t see a way to move away for Excel (there’s still there spreadsheets with 10+ years still being used).

        My wife’s company uses GDocs, but they’re do food research and barely uses those programs.

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          This is because Microsoft intentionally breaks excel and PP compatibility with Google docs in small but important ways. It’s the only thing keeping them afloat at this point. I have gotten into heated debates at work over this, because I prefer Google docs, but my boss will be like “we need to deliver this to customers who will open it in office and the formatting will break” and I’m like “that’s what a pdf is for.”

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          I would doubt it, it is nowhere near as good as office and google sheets specifically has much smaller worksheets than excel, with only 26 rows.

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        Google docs is far worse than office, in every way except for collaboration. It does not destroy them at all. LibreOffice is on par except for having no collaboration, but is not widely used so definitely haven’t destroyed them. Office is still very successful and probably won’t be gone anytime soon

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      Proton (and Wine, what it’s based on) are not emulators. They are compatibility layers, it translates Windows system calls to native Linux system calls.