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The losses of Germany on the eastern front are widely believed to be the most significant factor in defeating Nazi Germany and the USSR won the battle of Berlin, the final battle before the German capitulation. Thus Europe widely believed (for a good reason) that the USSR was the main contributor in defeating Germany. With the cold war the perception of the USSR became a lot worse in western countries like France and with increasing anti-USSR sentiment the view flipped to viewing the USA as the deciding factor. The USSR (and the Russian Federation today, even if its government is very anti USSR) viewed itself as the most important force in defeating Germany, especially because the USSR had the biggest amount of deaths. It is worth noting that the USSR was at least commercially allied with Nazi Germany until June 22, 1941 and there was an agreement between the nations on which parts of Europe each could invade and which where reserved for the other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_World_War_II

    • MoffKalast@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      “Kif, show them the medal I won”

      I don’t think dying a lot necessarily means means doing much, it just means that you are incompetent and have a careless disregard for life.

      • Akasazh@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        Here’s a copy paste of my answer above to someone with a similar argument for your perusal:

        No, but it is a measure of sacrifice. The numbers involved are incredible and without comparison to any allied nation.

        The amount of German casualties on the eastern front is not coincidentally the highest, so if killing Nazis is your metric the Russians did most of that.

      • Tolc@lemmy.zip
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        17 days ago

        80% german forces got buried on eastern front I get it why you would hate modern russia but that shouldnt diminish sacrifices made by red army in any way, we are forever indebted to them.

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        23 days ago

        No, but it is a measure of sacrifice. The numbers involved are incredible and without comparison to any allied nation.

        The amount of German casualties on the eastern front is not coincidentally the highest, so if killing Nazis is your metric the Russians did most of that.

      • sidebro@lemmy.zip
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        23 days ago

        Indeed, because that can mean they had bad tactics and gear just as likely

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          23 days ago

          It could potentially mean that, but 80% of Nazi soldiers who died in WW2 died in the Eastern Front, so it doesn’t mean that.