• Razen@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    How to even get an internship? I have tried everything but cant get a single call and you are saying there are people earning 6k dollars pm. Noice.

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      3 months ago

      Yes, there’s nothing like an imaginary number that keeps growing and never materialises.

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          3 months ago

          Well it depends on how the RSU is set up of course. All the equity I’ve apparently received in my time is still waiting on “defined liquidity event” before I can do anything at all.

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            3 months ago

            You got RSUs(restricted stock units) from a startup?

            For startups those will usually be options (not RSUs) which do not materialize until an exit event. There can be liquidity events before exit as well if the company is doing well.

            RSUs are usually offered by publicly traded companies and basically as good (or better) than cash.

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              3 months ago

              No, not from a startup. It might be worth mentioning that I’m in the U.K. so the terms and lingo may differ from yours.

              I’ve had RSUs from series D scale ups. I’ve had options from start ups. Typically in the UK they’re wrapped as an investment you make on entry (using a loan the company offers you) to only pay capital gains tax (25% in the UK). And I’ve had RSUs from big, established enterprises.

              What’s common to them all, for me, is that they’ve broadly not paid out what they were advertised to, either because the stock falls (Unity springs to mind), you leave before anything material vests (and the hiring company matches your RSUs) or there’s no liquidity event.

              I trust cash, paid into my bank account. The rest, IMHO, is just trumps (US: farts) in the wind.

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    3 months ago

    Engineering as a whole is now diluted with a bunch of money-hungry STEM’s who were never even that good at engineering. Their parents probably pushed them into the degree. It’s sad.

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      diluted with a bunch of money-hungry STEM’s who were never even that good at engineering.

      That’s all the STEMs now. The actual competent ones are on Wall Street.

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        Yep. why struggle doing research when you can make 500K a year writing stock trading algorithms.

        i had a roommate who was a physics PhD. He quit after 4 years and went to work for a Wall St and his starting salary was 400K, this was 2009, after the crisis. had he completed his PhD he’d have been lucky to make 60K a year and then after decades of work he might have made close to 200K. I would guess today he’s probably making well over a million a year.

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          Yep. why struggle doing research when you can make 500K a year writing stock trading algorithms.

          …because research contributes to make a better society for everyone compared to scamming people with overhyped stocks?

          But yes, in reality, the trend seems to be finance first, if you can get in.

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            3 months ago

            only a tiny minority of researchers get to do that.

            most research is lots of work with poor pay, often to the point where are per hour making less than working at a fast food job.

            very few researchers are lucky enough to get rewarding work, and hardly anyone gets to do rewarding work that is well-paid.

            and most well-paid research even in industry is working for corporations that are seeking to enrich themselves rather than better society. most pharma research goes towards high profit highly specialized drugs, for example, that will mostly only benefit the small slice of society that can afford them.

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        It entirely depends on if the parents being well-off allowed their kid to get a degree they aren’t really qualified for because they could use money as a crutch.

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          parents money has nothing to do with if they get a degree… you have to complete the coursework regardless.

          colleges will prefer to admit kids who can pay full tuition over kids who need financial assistance… if that is what you are complaining about?

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    Where tf did you get that pay lmao, maybe its regional, but I need a raise like that, I’m a BE Dev 2, awaiting performance review for 3 (Senior) and sadly not as close to that as I’d like.

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      3 months ago

      have a degree from a top 10 school, 10 years of experience, and work for a large corporation.

      and learn to brown nose and play politics with your bosses